It is primarily for this battle that the Giants are known, and its importance to Greek culture is attested by the frequent depiction of the Gigantomachy in Greek art. For one very important reason. Very cool theory! asked for everything in existance to pledge an oath to never harm Baldur. It's possible that the conflict of nature was just mortal vs (something other than mortal). So continuing that theory could it be possible that the mural is not a prophecy but a recounting of past events. [â]Sirliftalot35 1 point2 points3 points 1 year ago (0 children). Life / Death / Rebirth. Although Tyr manage to close of one of the ways to johunheim... What if he died to the hands of the Greek gods and did not manage to close the last of many remaining links to johunheim? Odin gets the last laugh as the virus later kills the giants in Jotunheim after they build those monuments to record what happened to them. Odin removed the center piece from the actual shrine and had it in his Helheim hidden chamber. I think this theory also really proves how much of a disgusting monster Odin is. I think the characters' perception of the sickness can easily be wrong and true cause misplaced. Damasan was born to be the opposite of Ares, however Ares was the god of war, violence, war, bloodlust and bloodshed. It'll be cool to see how/if that unfolds. Damn this makes total sense! The only thing is his arrogant outburst when he goes through his God-phase, but he's physically healthy the entire time IIRC. They'll wake and that'll start Ragnarok. Hilton. But your right it's totally an option, [â]byrgenwerth_spider 0 points1 point2 points 1 year ago (0 children). [â]TiteParaPresidente 0 points1 point2 points 1 year ago (0 children), [â]TalonTheWolf 21 points22 points23 points 1 year ago (3 children). The controls were so tight and made you feel so powerful, you understood why the gods would fear a mere mortal like Kratos. There is the possibility that Atreus was an accident, but based on the ending events of God of War 4, the kid may have been Faye’s plan all along since she met Kratos. Hindu mythology is introducing giants of all kinds. There's also references to Celtic and Japanese mythology in Helheim. Ad Nauseam - Please refrain from posting topics that have been vigorously discussed before. Evidence can be seen when Atreus lands himself in a coma when he attempts to activate Rage of Sparta to save Kratos from Modi. It's not as depressing and sad like OPs theory, [â]billynomates4real 3 points4 points5 points 1 year ago (0 children), [â]Hexadezimala 17 points18 points19 points 1 year ago (2 children). Rune of Jötunheim Jötunheim is one of the Nine Realms of the World Tree, home of the ancient race of Jötnar and the final destination of Kratos and Atreus' journey in God of War. Rendered by PID 5919 on r2-app-026654840bd31c627 at 2020-12-02 22:18:51.800590+00:00 running a42a821 country code: US. Tyr. But then why does Faye die much later than the giants? )Â Laufey is a jotunn (giant), mother of Loki, and wife of fellow jotunn Farbauti in Norse mythos. Tangentially related submissions may be removed if the link to the God of War universe is tenuous. Players spend the entire game looking forward to reaching the magical realm, yet when they get there, it’s clear that the … One after that Artreus is missing so he has to come out of retirement also finds a good new recruit to train - jealous between new recruit and artreus could be interesting but i might be getting too devil may cry there ! Brok and Sindri know about this. Throughout, the game presents the truth as being elusive and multifaceted; particularly Mimir's telling of the giants' stories and Odin's deception for cruel ends. Not to mention that Kratos has constantly told Atreus how bad Gods are and taught him to hate them; perhaps that hatred for something that he secretly is was leading to extra turmoil and internal conflict. [â]ellista2k 0 points1 point2 points 1 year ago (0 children). Posts containing spoilers should be marked as such using the option in the links below your post. It's a great series, not really for a deep character or intense introspection, but for the wa You're literally climbing the world tree at that point. ), [â][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 1 year ago (0 children), Time travel and dimension travel ruins stories and allows the writers to write with no consequences, [â]Alberel 17 points18 points19 points 1 year ago (0 children). Every realm is just a reflection of the other, and the realm travel room only works because there is identical rooms in every realm. But how did they die? She only did not ask a mistletoe plant, seeing it as either too young, or inconsequential. There are many levels of the afterlife in Greek/Roman mythology. Remember, Giants are known for their ability to see the future. God did help Caleb send away those giants and take over the mountain. Their are motives both hidden and clear that are well thought out - so many games have such garbage story telling . [â]M-1807-01-YHL 0 points1 point2 points 1 year ago (1 child). God of War's Freya seems to follow the theory that Frigg and Freya are one in the same.) Started play GoW for the first time and I couldn't help but think of these two. He was defeated by the god, when Poseidon ripped off a part of island Kos with his trident and hurled it at him. Frequently recurring memes will be removed even if they have not been submitted in that timeframe. But your theory is totally plausible, [â]Sirliftalot35 1 point2 points3 points 1 year ago (6 children). After the Giants left Thors Mother (a Giantess) died. Above their heads it says in Runes Bergelmir and Nal. I think it would be an incredible story arc for Kratos if, after all he’s done, he becomes beloved Bergelmir, king of giants, or Tyr, who brought peace and justice. Perhaps the story of the next game will revolve around Atreus seeking vengeance, and repeating the same mistakes as his father once did. The Gigantomachy was probably the most important battle that happened in Greek mythology. This is part of his plan to prevent Ragnarok and fighting the giants when the world ends. If you listen to Mimir throughout your journey, the egregious conflict between the ruthless Aesir and Jötunar (I don't believe I spelled that accurately) left a great deal of the Giants deceased. The Thunderbird is on one of the wall shrines heading down the elevator to the lower part of Tyr's temple. It could be cool either way, [â]elborru 1 point2 points3 points 1 year ago (0 children), I think the Giants anticipated the death of Kratos, but he defeated the Destiny sisters, then he is a god that is not bound to fate and, therefore, he can avoid it (in fact he says that destiny is just a gods' canard. I believe the ashes mark that it's time for the giants to wake up. Stronmaus, greater god of sun, sky, weather, seas, and joy. Nal means Needle and was the alternativ name for Laufey in Norsemythology, I guess they hoped people would not spent second thoughts on his wife ð. He was said to be the king of the giants and wanted to rape Hera during the war but was prevented by Zeus who had struck him with thunderbolt. The Gigantomachy was probably the most important battle that happened in Greek mythology. Iâm pretty sure that Freya and Mimir also both said that was the cause. Atreus sees past the illusion b/c he's part giant. In ancient times, the giants rose from Tartarus to fight and destroy the gods. She died of old age, like her former Husband once did. Only 1 in 10 of your posts / comments here should link to your own content. Same time a battle is waging between Thor and the giants of Midgard as Odin foreseens Ragnarok. Also if Atreus somehow finds out about this, he will begin a path of vengeance just as Kratos did with Zeus. Jötnar are a type of entity contrasted with Gods and other figures, such as Dwarves and Elves. Original content must be respected and cited. But wait. Faye was mortal and Atreus 3/4 mortal / Faye was a giant, Atreus is 1/2 giant and Baldur wanted her from the start, Midgard peak is highest peak to spread Faye's ashes / Faye meant Jotunheim, Frigg is Baldur's mother / Freya is Baldur's mother and queen of valkyries, Thor planned the killing of Thamur / According to Mimir, Thor just got lucky as Thamur was looking for his son, Light elves are non-violent and good/ Maybe the light elves are bad (? The wind blows to reveal Thorâs iconic hammer Mjollnir. His lore is not nearly as extensive as Loki's, but some stories relay both Farbauti and Laufey as perishing early on in Loki's life, and Loki getting adopted by Thor or Odin.Â. It had been since 2018 when I last played this masterpiece. This is why the game is also so good - the story is deep AND MAKES sense ! As in, when the giants made the mural the events of GoW sequels had already happened and Kratos had already been killed. Trickster, father of wolves (Fenrir), World Serpents, and Hel. Does the boy cause Kratosâ death? [â]primetime_time[S] 0 points1 point2 points 1 year ago (5 children). There must be a lot of trauma for Kratos and kids when it comes to the fate of his previous child. That's so fucked up. My theory: She rules over the relm of Folkvangr a beautiful field where half of those who have died in battle go. It is because he suffers from ocd and he sees it in his child, he fears passing it on. No, he doesn't show any symptoms after being cured by Freya. The giants flee to Jotunheim and seal it away with Tyr's help, but Faye stays behind. Today is a great day, two theories I have not yet read on this sub. Interesting. Also, they didn't suspect he was part giant either in their diagnosis. The gods initially struggled against the giants, with Zeus even becoming afraid of the enemies. But what is coming out of Atreus' mouth? So this future where the giants die can possibly be averted by something different happening, such as Kratos not dying. I think due to the nature of time going faster in Jotunheim, as shown when Fimbulwinter comes, it accelerates the sickness, killing the giants first. In Norse mythology, Freya (sometimes synonymous with Frigg. The giants could only be killed by a god and a hero working together. I think it's the latter. The entities are themselves ambiguously defined, variously Jörmungandrreferred to by several other terms, including eóten, risi, thurs, ogre and troll. Thereâs still one last secret in God of War, and that comes after youâve defeated the 8 Valkyries as well as what you assume was the Valkyrie Queen. The idea of being a “good god” is a significant theme in GOD OF WAR. We even saw him project his paternal feelings to Pandora in God of War 3. It seems that this symbol is associated with them, as far as I could tell. Submissions of this nature will be removed. It represents 3 legs, working together, always in forward motion. Because Faye stays in Midgard, she dies much much later. God Of War: 10 Things Fans Didn’t Realize Happened Between 3 & The PS4 Game. And why is Kratos so content with this ominous image? This. Theory on what really happened to the giants *SPOILERS*. [â]doglywolf 2 points3 points4 points 1 year ago (0 children). Your theory is very good, but I can't imagine it would be effective without presentation of the cruelty. As players wait patiently to get their first glimpse of the next God of War title, we take a look at what we'd like to see of Kratos' new wife. [â]julianom7 1 point2 points3 points 1 year ago (0 children), [â]AegonTheAuntFooker 0 points1 point2 points 1 year ago (0 children). The Giants or Gigantes were a race of great strength, but not necessarily of great size, that were born out of the blood that fell onto the earth (the Titan goddess Gaea) when the Titan Uranus was castrated by his son, Cronus.. [â]joshawaddell 2 points3 points4 points 1 year ago* (3 children). Do not promote methods for obtaining God of War games illegally, PSN accounts or things that breach any Terms of Service. A mural, that shows their past, present, and future, all playing out at once. It's not just a stairway made of light either. Lol don't burn me I just recently finished the game 23/1/2019. Faye dies from the sickness before the game begins. That stairway of light also deposited them directly where they needed to go and sent them past the murals they were meant to see. He was the patron of the storm giants and the cloud giants. And Frye is not as massive as the giant thamur. The last giant the Olympians killed on their own was Polybote. When you have time travel and alternate universes, you can write up any story. As far as the games go, they could all be Santa Monica's symbols of war. Faye - Bergelmirs Ex-wife/widdow was not killed. Yes I know that, but most people want it to be permanent. Given that you killed his two sons, itâs not hard to imagine why the God of Thunder has come knocking. [â]Surviver68 3 points4 points5 points 1 year ago (1 child), I think heâll die but weâll carry it on by playing atreus. Porphyrion - a giant who started a war against Olympians. This subreddit is dedicated to discussion of the games and sharing news about them. Lastly there was some lore on the wall that said "Wake us when the gods are good" and something about a champion. Possible Triskele Meanings - A tale of forward motion to reach understanding. I guess it was Thor. And that those who put their faith and trust in Him would be blessed and saved. edit: not symbols of war (looking more into this). I've been a God of War player since the very first game. It's also worth to note, the 'Triskele' is, and has been, used by many cultures, including before the Celts. There’s hades where the heroic, neutral, and evil humans all end up, in their own various sections, and the Palace of the lord Hades is also on that level. Is the cycle of a son murdering his father truly not broken? Hell, Mimir said the same thing on the boat ride IIRC, that the struggle was killing him. Just because the credits are rolling, that doesnât mean the game is over. In the Gigantes war against the Olympians there was one Gigante who did not fight, his name was Damasan. [â]HEADLESSZOMB13 22 points23 points24 points 1 year ago (1 child). I think that maybe all the Giants weren't on board with leaving Midgard and maybe they started fighting amongst themselves starting a civil war between the Giants. HeadÂ back to your home after these initial credits to trigger another cut scene.When Kratos and Atreus head back to their home, the pair lay down to rest after their long adventure. Jotunheim is the final destination in God of War, but unfortunately, the realm of the mythical giants fails to live up to expectations. Zeus inherited his mastery of lightning from the Cyclops. SPAM is not allowed, nor being a spam, or promoting spam. During the great war the titans ( giants) they knew they must win the war on the moral world (Midgard) otherwise man kind is doomed if it was left to the hands of gods. [â]TalonTheWolf 0 points1 point2 points 1 year ago (0 children). Letâs jump ahead a few moments to the reveal that the name Atreus was given to the boy in honor of a brave and kind Spartan that Kratos knew back in Greece. The God of War footage at the PlayStation E3 2017 press conference didn't do much to fill in the years-long gap between the apocalyptic ending of God of War … It was a fight between the Giants or Gigantes, sons of Gaea and Uranus, and the Olympian gods who were trying to overthrow the old religion and establish themselves as the new rulers of the cosmos.. Attacking or harassing other users may result in a ban. *spoilers*". In the Gigantes war against the Olympians there was one Gigante who did not fight, his name was Damasan. "A land of desert with many gods" you hear Mimir tell Atreus when viewing all the treasures scattered around. [â]TiteParaPresidente 0 points1 point2 points 1 year ago (2 children), [â]joshawaddell 1 point2 points3 points 1 year ago (1 child). This weakness allowed Kratos to snap Baldurâs neck and finally put an end his madness. My theory is that they did not go to Jotunheim in the present, but they went in the far distant future. This would be a continued theme in the wars against the giant-infested nations. When it came out, God of War on the PS2 was a revelation to the genre. You'll come across them during a cinematic in Helheim, but can't see them again. [â]primetime_time[S] 13 points14 points15 points 1 year ago (0 children). Finally, someone else who doesnât want Kratos to die. [â]Hexadezimala 3 points4 points5 points 1 year ago* (0 children), Check out the Shrine showing Bergelmir and his Wife escaping the sea of blood after the demise of Ymir. I'm glad you asked about them. It seems a fair number of people didn't look at the corpses in Jotunheim very closely. Faye meets Kratos and they have Atreus. But yes, according most of Mimir's stories while boating and the 11 shrines, Odin was always present and directly or indirectly succeeded in killing the JÃ¶tnar, [â]TheAntagoniser79 4 points5 points6 points 1 year ago (0 children). I assumed they were all symbols of war, but I was wrong. As Kratos says, he wasn’t the only parent keeping a … Odin removed the center piece from the actual shrine and had it in his Helheim hidden chamber. 4. [â]R_Not_Alone 4 points5 points6 points 1 year ago (0 children). In the game, Kratos and Atreus get to Jotunheim and find all the giants dead, their corpses dotting the distance. Bottom Right - Celtic 'Triskele' (possible meanings below). Faye, who stayed back as the Guardian, and had cut all contact to Jotunheim in order not to risk the Asier get to Jotunheim, did not notice what happend. I think it would be an incredible story arc for Kratos if, after all he’s done, he becomes beloved Bergelmir, king of giants, or Tyr, who brought peace and justice. There’s hades where the heroic, neutral, and evil humans all end up, in their own various sections, and the Palace of the lord Hades is also on that level. Atreus’ mother was of the race of giants. There is the possibility that Atreus was an accident, but based on the ending events of God of War 4, the kid may have been Faye’s plan all along since she met Kratos. Freya was even married to one of her lover Odr the Norse god of summer until he disappeared. A long time passes in Midgard while only a few moments pass in Jotunheim. Oh, and when we first meet Sindri, he talks about Atreus Mother and claims she came to them âin the beginningâ. [â]primetime_time[S] 44 points45 points46 points 1 year ago (14 children). Later, with the help of Heracles and Dionysus, the strongest mortal heroes of the time, the gods were able to kill all the giants. This page explains the ending of God of War and covers a few unanswered questions and theories. It became the new gold standard for action beat 'em ups. Since these giants were simply a natural, genetic variation of human beings, they died along with the rest of the earth's population. Spirit / Mind / Body. Power / Intellect / Love. Maybe Freya would have ulterior motives, but Mimir too? It goes without saying, but spoilers ahead. Tyr made it very hard for anyone to find their way there, eluding even the Aesir gods. use the following search parameters to narrow your results: This subreddit is dedicated to discussion of the games and sharing news about them. Be Excellent to Each Other - Follow Reddiquette guidelines - don't be a garbage person. God of War is a third person action-adventure video game developed by Santa Monica Studio and published by Sony Interactive Entertainment. The boyâs real name is Loki. Get an ad-free experience with special benefits, and directly support Reddit. © 2020 reddit inc. All rights reserved. Self-promotion should follow Reddit's Guidelines. Blood and Gore, Intense Violence, Strong Language, Things You Should Know Before Playing God of War, God of War Valkyrie Locations and Hidden Chambers, God of War Valkyrie Queen - How to Defeat Queen Sigrun, God of War Muspelheim - Tips for Trials and Challenges, God of War Niflheim - Quests, Maze, and Items Guide, God of War Dragons - Where to Find Dragon Tears, Things Ghost of Tsushima Doesn't Tell You. ~ J.L. There must be a lot of trauma for Kratos and kids when it comes to the fate of his previous child. Finally, the Giants, divine bastards, were the masters of death and destruction. A future where Ragnarok does not happen. This is the realm that the giants fled to, escaping Odin’s wrath. Connect, support, comment or contact the author here With Baldur out of the way and Freya rightfully pissed off, our heroes are finally free to use the Bifrost to travel to Jotunheim (with a bit of unconventional help from Mimir). Well, once you finally reach Joutnheim you realize that it is absent of any life. Remember, Giants are known for their ability to see the future. Creation / Preservation / Destruction. What if the giants of johunheim are the titans in Greek mythology. I find it unlikely they were both lying or wrong. It would also mean that Freya lied to Kratos, as she seemed to tell him in no uncertain terms that his sickness was a result of him not knowing his true nature. Oh, that's a really cool theory too. I think him just knowing that he is not an mortal in general is what caused it.... . Use the search function to check if your questions have been answered in the past. A explanation based on information actually provided in game - as opposed to making up and adding new details - is that those Jotnar died at the hands of Thor after he recovered Mjolnir from Thrym. Kratos shows the gods are good and Atreus is the champion for the giants. REDDIT and the ALIEN Logo are registered trademarks of reddit inc. π Rendered by PID 5919 on r2-app-026654840bd31c627 at 2020-12-02 22:18:51.800590+00:00 running a42a821 country code: US. This is brought up frequently through the form of his stories. Old Norse jötunn (also jǫtunn,) and Old English eóten developed from the Proto-Germanic masculine noun etunaz which has a connection with the Proto-Germanic etanan which was reconstructed from … After Atreus leaves the temple, Kratos watches as a curtain blows back, revealing that the mural also shows the future.Â, Ok Kratos alone sees this final, hidden pane, which is open to a bit of interpretation. God of War 2: Faye Deserves More Attention. He was later killed by Heracles. It was, We find out as the credits roll that Faye is also known as Laufey (Lau[faye], see? This would be a continued theme in the wars against the giant-infested nations. Odin gains knowledge of Vanir magic from his marriage with Freya. [â]primetime_time[S] 0 points1 point2 points 1 year ago (0 children), [â]MythicFrost 0 points1 point2 points 1 year ago (0 children), [â]Sirliftalot35 0 points1 point2 points 1 year ago (0 children). The most important divine struggle in Greek mythology was the Gigantomachy, the battle fought between the Giants and the Olympian gods for supremacy of the cosmos. It is primarily for this battle that the Giants are known, and its importance to Greek culture is attested by the frequent depiction of the Gigantomachy in Greek art. Spoilers - Do not include spoilers in the title of your post. Laufey's nickname was Nal - possibly meaning needle - because she was known to be small and slender when compared to other jotunn.Â. From Santa Monica Studio and creative director Cory Barlog comes a new beginning for one of gamingâs most recognizable icons in the epic PlayStation 4 entry in the God of War franchise. and join one of thousands of communities. And of course, the catalyst of Ragnarok - the death of Baldur is the first domino that causes it in mythology.Â, Just as Atreus' name was written differently in the runes on the mural, so is Kratos'. Wow, totally forgot that Thor is also technically half-giant, like Atreus. Odin creates a magical sickness/curse and releases it in Midgard to infect the giants. The ashes were also glowing. It was God who conquered the 4-King coalition for Abraham and delivered them for defeat. Thank you! [â]Joebranflakes 116 points117 points118 points 1 year ago (21 children). They are aligned with Faye to bring about Ragnarok and they know that the giants are all dead by the hand of Thor and with a weapon that they created. same - next one will be switching back and forth with Artreus with him as the wise old warrior. The giants flee to Jotunheim and seal it away with Tyr's help, but Faye stays behind. [â]zer0_f0rgotten 17 points18 points19 points 1 year ago (0 children). She still guarded Midgard, spending her days living with Kratos and mothering Atreus. Since these giants were simply a natural, genetic variation of human beings, they died along with the rest of the earth's population. Thing is, a lot of assumptions and established facts that were later changed due to later reveals in the game. Annam All-Father, greater god of magic, fertility, learning, and philosophy and the chief deity of the giant pantheon, hailed as the creator of the giant races. Yes, THAT Loki. Atreus exhibits symptoms of the sickness. Promoting dodgy scam sites or soliciting for free codes may also result in a ban. Additionally it's odd Faye marked the trees which were glowing. And that those who put their faith and trust in Him would be blessed and saved. I feel like the giants aren't actually dead, but instead asleep or in hiding. Definitely room for time travel in there. Freya also owned a … A Titan himself, Zeus can take any appearance – ie a giant or an animal. Atreus exhibits symptoms of the sickness. I am a big boy, it's on the Jotnar shrine center piece that Mimir uses his 'sight' on to see the way to Jotunheim. Mother / Father / Child. Text in the blue boxes explains in parallel what happened in the original Norse Mythos, During Kratos and Atreus' final battle with Baldur, the rampant god becomes mortal after being pierced by the mistletoe that Sindri gave Atreus earlier on in the story.
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